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So if your going to use this tactic...make sure you are leaving somewhat relevant comments on niche related blogs to add value to their readers as well as generate your own traffic.
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There's no stopping spammers from hitting your blog. But handling all those spams by hand or just letting them go through is truly insane.
I doubt even if people use this tactic to spam that it will amount to anything significant compared to the blue pill pushers.
I got 15000 spams last month alone, but Akismet caught 99.9% of them and I got rid of the rest in seconds while moderating good posts.
We've also been using this same tactic with Google Alerts. Aside from getting duplicate alerts, it has proven to be very helpful at finding great conversations to dominate.
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I just searched for my niche (real estate investing “Enable CommentLuv which will”) and frankly wasnt' expecting much. But I was surprised at what it brought to the surface.
thanks for another great tip...one that I can actually USE!
Also thanks to Len for the Google Alerts idea - a great, easy amplification.
...jp
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A lot of bloggers might think about adding the plugin to their own blogs to encourage more comments as well.
Also, Shoemoney's blog not only has a top commenter plugin (which he wrote himself) but he rewards them with regular links, not nofollow links. Lots of people worry about having too many outgoing links from their blog and being penalized in the search engines, but increasing that sense of community within your blog is pretty important I would think.
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If you become a regular reader and commentator on any one particular blog, and the writer of that blog posts very frequently, you will find yourself posting more, just to have a different link show up in your comments instead of the same ones repeatedly.
The more they post, and the more you comment, the more you will post on your own blog. You will start keeping pace with them.
What an incredible productivity booster!
It only takes a single blog owned by a prolific poster that draws you in and captures your interests to start the chain reaction.
So if you are the lazy type of blogger that doesn't post that frequently, go find one to comment on that uses CommentLuv, that will push you to be more productive.
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Yes! Glad you brought that up. The "dead zone" a lot of bloggers fall into is they expect to have to "reach out" a lot less and post less often than you really need to.
Getting truly involved in other blogs, especially with features enabled like CommentLuv, really does a number on your willingness to take it up a notch in your own publishing schedule.
Not only do you not want people to see the same post in your CommentLuv comments on other blogs, you also don't want to leave posts up for too long because you disappoint readers who you now owe good content to.
They want it, you supply it, you monetize it!
Thanks for the info Jack,
Nikki
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I agree that as of now Akismet is the way to go, but SixApart may have a good tool also.
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I heavily moderate my blog and it takes a lot of extra time to do this. It would be 'easier' and more time-efficient if I simply removed CommentLuv and replace nofollow.... but I refuse to.
You see, there are so many wonderful people who add to the discussion of the page and make my site better... Why shouldn't I give something back?
However, trying to 'game' my site makes me very cranky...lol! I believe my exact words were -
"If you spam my blog, I will haunt you, hunt you down, and make fun of your clothes, your hairstyle, AND your car."
In other words - no link for you!
Great post!
Jennifer
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If a blog isn't being seen, half the time there's one fundamental reason why: It simply isn't worth looking at. The blog offers nothing to merit readership.
The other 50% has to do with TIME and RELATIONSHIPS. It takes TIME for a blog to rise to prominence in almost any topical space, and it takes RELATIONSHIPS to make this happen. Neither alone will do it, but everyone, it seems, thinks that there's some black bag of tricks that can circumvent these immutable realities - especially TIME.
It's this business of time that gives rise to some of the biggest lies on the Internet, even by respected people. Terry Dean, for instance, will teach you how he "did over a $million in sales in one day", implying that you can do it too. John Reese never, ever, ever did a $million in sales in one day. That "day", first of all, was the day he launched a product that had been MONTHS in development. That "day", second of all, was the day he cashed in on over 14 YEARS in the internet marketing game, during which he developed the RELATIONSHIPS and the REPUTATION that made his "$million day" possible. Yes, the sales came in during the course of 24 hours, but he didn't make those sales in "a day". No way, Jose.
So, I could have handed you his product, and I could have handed you all the names of the "list owners" who agreed to help get his message out, and YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SOLD ANYTHING. What John Reese, Morin, and everyone else who claims to tell you how to make "$X thousands in a month" are doing is telling you an unconscious lie. Every one of them, if they are doing that kind of business, is cashing in on YEARS of previous effort, YEARS of reputation building, and YEARS of relationship building.
So now you know the truth about internet marketing, including the "marketing" of your blog. QUALITY + TIME + RELATIONSHIPS. Forget the "games".
I'll give you a good example of what I'm talking about in my earlier comment:
Let's say that you blog in the "internet marketing" topical space, and let's say that your niche in that space is "traffic building". You get your blog up and running, and you start to look around this space to identify the leaders in the field that you want to be associated with. People you want to learn from, to borrow content from, and....well, people you'd like to emulate is the best way to put it.
It wouldn't take you long before you'd run into Jack Humphrey and the Friday Traffic Report, would it? Of course not. So you do a little checking, read a lot of his content, etc. and you see you've identified what you might call a BINGO! Make it your business to see what you can emulate, participate in HIS space, and in a totally non-artificial way let him know that you'd appreciate any advice or assistance he can give you. You might even go so far as to ask if you could hook up at a conference where he's speaking or something like that.
Do this sort of thing with a handful of the very top, most quality-conscious leaders in your topical space, and I think I can guarantee that one day you'll look up and find that your own efforts are being rewarded in surprising ways.
You know the one thing that a very extensive study of wealthy people discovered they ALL share? At some point they learned to associate themselves with others who are already doing what they want to do. They learned from the trail-blazers, emulating some things they did and improving on others.
I had to look back in the Warrior Forum for a post I made years ago (when Reese's launch was the thing everyone was talking about) to see if you lifted some of this from there!
I was telling people the same thing, John chimed in, and it was all good in the end as the group decided that reasonable people really didn't think that million dollar day came out of the ether without a lot of work behind it.
I've decided that I am going to assume people are listening to me and everyone else who say over and over again that content, originality, time, and effort are the key ingredients to blogging or authority site success.
I can only say it so much before my blog starts looking like everyone's Mom nagging them to take out the trash and to go look it up in the dictionary.
Then MY content suffers. So, KNOWING that everyone is paying attention to the golden rules of business, online and off, I focus on new trends, neat little harmless tricks, and methodologies that help people who are putting in the effort.
That's why people come here. That's what they want to read about WHILE they are working their tails off to get noticed and get profitable with their sites with good content.
If I don't do it this way and I focus on the more vocal "losers" in this industry who want everything handed to them without doing a lick of work or learning, well, it gets kind of depressing for me.
If there was a way I could hold back a post showing a marketing tactic by saying "You can't read this until you've finished your linkbait!" (there's mom again. replace "linkbait" with "spinach") I might do it.
I prefer just helping those I can help knowing that the ones who aren't really listening to the core rules are also reading.
I was one of those people back in 1998. The guys in the Warrior Forum were telling us to settle down with the MLM crap and money making scams and get to work on our own products and build a real business way back then.
I wasn't open to it. I wanted quick cash. Money for nothing. I treated the internet like it was a video game where, if I collected enough rings and played through all the levels I would make a ton of money.
It took me 2 years to figure out what my problem was before I started listening to my elders and putting in time to build a business.
People who didn't listen to me years ago have emailed me later saying "I should have just done what you were saying." This has happened a lot.
So even the people who aren't listening today might come back later and get to work, and that keeps me from focusing too much on the negative stuff.
I ain't Tony Robbins. Not a life coach. When people are ready for the message they need to hear, they can get a lot out of this and many other sites willing to teach them.
So sad what you said...I have downloaded Jacks ABB and read some extensive research into his Social Powerlinking and no where have I come across the types of things you are talking about. Not to mention that I don't see any on this site that comes to mind.
I find it fascinating that you felt the need to leave two comments in regards to blogging ethics and values but fail to provide any sort of indication that you have any foundation to back what you are saying. No blog.... :(
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I do believe that there are tricks...like comment love that can aid in those endeavors. If you misuse it...you have to sleep with yourself at night.
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And I agree with you steve, to block spammer on dofollow blog we can use akismet and captcha and/or moderate the comment
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I have installed commentluv at my main blog and I have been hit with so many traffic that it ate all my hosting bandwith :-) Ok, next month I will start using my blog again and by that time I should have been able to login and increase my account's bandwidth.
Before I forget... I wanted to say I intend to start using keyword luv as well on my niche related blogs...
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I really liked you answer about knowing the golden rules of business(great content, etc.)
I also agree that there is no problem with being smart and using great techniques to generate traffic. Some people get on a high horse about nothing ranting about this and that and don't even stop and think that you are giving excellent advice to work wisely.
As the saying goes, "Work smarter not harder."
All the best,
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It gives your commenters a keyword anchor link of their blog, instead of things like their name. (For example, right now I can google Chelle and my blog comes up on the first page! - but with keyword luv you can choose a keyword so it shows up Chelle from "Love & Relationships" instead :)
I just installed it on my blogs today if you want to check out how it works :)
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CommentLuv helps you reward your commentators by separating their name from their keywords in the link to their site. This gives them improved anchor text, which can help their site rank higher in the search engine results.
You can now leave a comment with your name as well as a keyword of your choice here and get a PR5 link back to your site! How cool is that? People pay big bucks for that and all you have to do is comment here.
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Great info on comment luv, and in this thread I love Jack's philosophy too. OK, so there's only one Tony Robbins, but I bet he can't blog worth a crap ;-)
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HTH
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I have to work really hard at not taking too much seriously on the web. I have to remember anyone can say and do most anything online that they probably wouldn't offline.
So, I figure while we're at all this, why not have some fun?
Tips on back links are so helpful to newish bloggers like myself. Even understanding the terminology can be hard enough sometimes, never mind the process.
Thanks again
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But, I wouldn't be surprised by such an act. It wouldn't be the first time real publishers were punished for what the spam community does.
Or maybe it is only the blogger who is receiving the comments, who gets the kudos?
Does high-quality off-site content with backlinks merit "points" from Google? That would include articles as well as comments. Makes me wonder. Only time will tell I guess.
Probably the best defense is to make sure we have good original content and real social activity on our blogs. Even nofollow links from intelligent comments do result in traffic and this results in comments on the commenter's blog. As well as RSS subscriptions etc.
So in the end it should still be a relatively strong strategy to post valuable posts and comment and interact realistically with others. Other strategies might fluctuate as to results but when it all comes out in the wash, this should be a pretty stable backup.
I'd like to try comment luv on my blog and see if it generates more comments. The other question of course, how to encourage people to subscribe to the RSS feed? Some good plugins for this, but I wonder how many "organic" google users will know what an RSS does.
People don't and will not know what RSS is for a long time, if ever. The regular surfer uses this technology without knowing it. The only people who talk about RSS are the people in the know - but we shouldn't heap jargon like that on our visitors.
That's why I have people subscribe to RSS via email through FeedBlitz. They never need to know what the technical meaning of RSS is to take advantage of it.
Microsoft Messenger is peer-to-peer networking. But they don't CALL it that and hundreds of thousands of people who use it don't care. They just use it and that's it.
RSS is the same. The reason it is so hard for people to get visitors to "subscribe to RSS" is they are asking people to do that instead of subscribing to their blog!
Only the website owner need know that the information is delivered via their RSS feed. Regular visitors, for all they know and care, are simply subscribing to a blog.
I have spent more time educating people about the concept of RSS feeds and feed readers, than promoting my own feed. (although I start all friends out with an opml that contains all my feeds :D)
I am also amazed at how many people have misconceptions on the usefulness of feeds...people that should know better.
About a year ago I contacted a tech savvy developer that writes some really great but infrequent articles & essays that I enjoy reading & sharing, to urge him to consider adding a feed to his site. He replied to tell me that feeds are only for blogs and sites that have new content on a daily basis. (what a job I had educating him!)
He eventually added the feed (probably to get me to stfu & leave him alone), and not only is he keeping it up to date with his latest article when he publishes one, he is now also announcing new software and updates to existing applications, as I also suggested. (Success!)
Common people that have no clue, click the link for your feed on your blog and are taken to a page they don't understand, and if it is all in XML, they get confused or think there is something wrong. This was why bloggers started using FeedBurner initially.
So Jack is right about offering the option to subscribe to the feed by email. This is especially important if your content isn't targeted at other bloggers (they usually understand feeds better than most).
Newsletters and email announcements, common people understand...feeds, they don't.
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I had fun the other day searching for ontopic blogs with commentluv and posting comments on them, AND the joy of seeing a link to our newest blog post as a gift for adding value to the conversation was great! :-)
Thanks for the great tip Jack, and I'll be on the lookout for other plugins that I can use in a similar way, as you suggested.
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I had to install the dofollow plugin on my blog because commentluv wouldn't do it by itself. I'm wondering if there's something in the newer releases of wordpress that break it. Or, maybe it was something in my theme.
Either way, I do enjoy the commentluv... especially the new version that lets you choose which post to add in your comments. Check it out on my site and download it from you know where...
Could you send me some links of pages explaining rss? ("for dummies" would be just fine, thanks :) )
Cheers!
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I don't think it's quite fair to say that commentluv is a cheap trick to cheat the system.
First of all it does take a lot of time to build links and actual effort. You can't just leave a bunch of crap comments on a blog that don't add to the conversation. With that in mind, commentluv and keywordluv help all parties involved as long as Akismit is activated on the blog. The post gets real comments that add to the interest of the article and the value of the page. Because the more comments your page has, the more google likes it. In return the commenter gets a couple links to his site with relavent key terms. It's not parasitical but rather symbiotic, so no one is getting cheated.
Second, links are not gonna help you dominate someone's site that has many years invested and is already recognized by google as an authoritative site. They will only help you rank for terms that there is no authority which means that you're not robbing someone of their hard work or time vested.
Third, if you don't have relevant content on your site it would take tens of thousands of links to get anywhere. Plus google doesn't give a crap about how many links you have if your site isn't relevant, so the first person that knows anything about SEO or internet marketing in general can get you de-indexed in minutes. And there are a lot of internet marketers out there, so even if a black hat does make $20 from spamming commentluv or keywordluv sites and ranking for a few hours, they are not in it for the long run and will shortly lose all value of whatever domain they are using.
So overall commentluv and keywordluv are awesome tools that don't really help scam artists.
PS: Thanks a lot for the post. It's good info for people that are just getting into blogging. It let's them know right off the bat that you can't prosper as a black hat. everyone I know that used to do it says they would go back and stop themselves if they could.
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In many cases your link is also being sent by email to everyone that is subscribed to that post's comments.
And yes, some of us do check those links and click the ones that catche our eyes.
I have clicked a few from this post, in my email, so you are getting additional traffic, even if the links in my email have no SEO benefits to you.
And that is what it's about...getting traffic, any way you can. It's not about SEO, at all.
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if it goes both ways, thou Its not sure if Google likes it.
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You said; "CommentLUV links are pretty valuable, even if they are no-follow links." I agree, but just wish more CommentLuv plugin users would also use DoFollow, so that we would ALL benefit.
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It push me and other reader backto basic on Link Building, U Comment - I Follow and so on. I'm a little bit curiuos to some web which promising a linkback, or social networking like Techn0rat1 or some other.
I think the best link building is U Comment I Follow method plus CommentLuv, i looking forward to Blogspot to make an official/default tool based on CommentLuv
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I get tons of spam on one of my blogs...50% of the time it doesn't even relate to the page in a way that's recognizable. And the other 50% is crap.
Once in a while I think I might see a real comment...but not very often.
If you use CommentLuv...use it with diginity...that's all.
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